Review my cat book

mechi2

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I haven't been following this thread very closely but I believe that whether or not you need an ISBN depends on where you sell it, for instance Amazon. But you don't need one if you are going to sell it yourself. There are also places on the web like lulu.com where you can sell your ebook and it doesn't cost anything to publish, they give you a commission when a copy sells. They also provide you with an ISBN or can help you in getting your own.

Whether or not you register a copyright is up to you. You own the copyright on creation of the work even if it's not registered but a registered copy right will help you in legal situations such as someone claiming your book as their own.
 

CatMom1994

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I don't get the registration part. Are you referring to submitting it to the Library of Congress?
 

mechi2

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No I was referring to registering a copyright to protect your work from unauthorized use such as someone trying to make money off it without your permission or passing it off as their own work. I don't know anything about the Library of Congress or if that's where copyrights are registered in the US. In any case you automatically own copyright to your work even if you don't register it.
 

CatMom1994

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So all I have to do is insert the letter C in a circle symbol and type "All rights reserved" to prevent people from copying pages and paragraphs?
 

mechi2

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Yeah, you have every right to put a copyright symbol on your work even if it's not registered but that won't stop someone from copying your work, even a registered copyright wouldn't stop someone from copying but it gives you a legal edge if you go to court.
 

Saav

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No, you have to go to the Library of Congress and get a certified copyright and an ISBN. That is what we do when we have books that need a copyright, even if we self-publish or go through a publisher.

Call or email the Library of Congress for your LEGAL copyright. They will give you a certified ISBN and grant you the copyright. They will review your work, decided that it has no copyright infringements, plagiarism, and all your references are properly used.

That C thing is no good. Anyone can do that. You do not own a copyright to your writings unless you apply for it and get it registered properly.

My book is properly protected, I have a copyright and ISBN, and that's why I can post it here, as I did, because it is protected. That C thing in Word does not protect you at all. You do not own the copyright to your book.

Until you properly protect it, if someone steals your work, you have no leg to stand on if you need to sue someone stealing your work.

Also, doing your work and mailing it to yourself is NOT a copyright. That C thing and mailing it to yourself does NOT constitute a copyright.

You need to contact the Library of Congress for a proper copyright and ISBN. Please, please do so. I did. That is the correct way to protect your work.

I hope you choose the better path here.

Hugs Saav
 

mechi2

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You do not own a copyright to your writings unless you apply for it and get it registered properly.
That is false, you own copyright to your own work whether or not you register it, you are correct in that a registered copyright helps in litigation proving that it's yours.
 

CatMom1994

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Saave, I was nolt going to copy and paste the4 TOC, index, glossry, and bibilography and title page beforeon this forum. The Wilbur story is ahearstring though, one about a cat many other posters had seen pictures of, I would feel bad if I did not tell the full story of how he became my cat here, where everyone who knows me also loves cats.
 

Saav

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I love the story of your cat!

I think the whole book should be about him, as kind of fiction. I think it's wonderful and let your imagination run!

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CatMom1994

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I love the story of your cat!

I think the whole book should be about him, as kind of fiction. I think it's wonderful and let your imagination run!
I guess you were not followinkg the reasons I am writing a book and decided to start it with Wilbur's story, which is 100% factual.

First of all, look at my signature. "An inside cat is a safe cat." This statement clearly implies an outside cat is an unsafe cat. How many reasons can you name that outside your walls is a danger zone for domestic cats? So many people do not realize how dangerous their own neighborhoods or even backyards are until it is too late that I feel very strongly about getting this message out there in writing. Wilbur's story is the purrfect foreword becauxse it is about how a stray cat who coukld have died outside or at a shelter became an indoor cat permanently.
 

Saav

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I guess you were not followinkg the reasons I am writing a book and decided to start it with Wilbur's story, which is 100% factual.

First of all, look at my signature. "An inside cat is a safe cat." This statement clearly implies an outside cat is an unsafe cat. How many reasons can you name that outside your walls is a danger zone for domestic cats? So many people do not realize how dangerous their own neighborhoods or even backyards are until it is too late that I feel very strongly about getting this message out there in writing. Wilbur's story is the purrfect foreword becauxse it is about how a stray cat who coukld have died outside or at a shelter became an indoor cat permanently.
While first of all, as my cats are inside cats, I agree. However people have inside/outside cats who are fixed and only go out into the yard to do their business and come back in. They stay close to home and do not wander.

There are cat owners who are allergic to cat urine and feces, making it impossible to have indoor cat boxes. I see nothing wrong with a fixed cat being let out to poop or pee in a backyard and coming back in.

My Monster was like that. He was fixed, had all his shots, was healthy, but had an aversion to the box, so hubby and I let him out during the day and night to go do his business outside. He would run out, and we'd wait five minutes and he was back wanting in.

That was his way.

Don't always judge people owning cats and letting them outside. While there is a good argument of inside cats being safe, you don't know everyone's circumstances, and you can't judge anyone for letting cats out. You do not know the circumstances, and painting a broad brush over this is not going to help folks who do let their cats out.

While your signature does have truth to it, read mine. It has has a much better message, and one we all must realize.

First, as you see, It's cute: Adopt a kitty and save nine lives.

The second: They can't read or write, but they sure can multiply. Please spay or neuter your pet.

That's a very important issue. Also, having up-to-date shots such as rabies and all is very important. All my cats, although they don't go out, have all their shots. What if one got out?

An inside cat is not necessarily a safe cat without spaying, or neutering, or without the proper vaccinations. Also all indoor cats need to be treated for fleas monthly if there is a dog who can bring fleas in, and the dog as well needs to be treated monthly.

So not all indoor cats are safe. Fleas are not cool. Just stating an indoor cat is a safe cat is not exactly correct. That's a generalism, and in case your cats get out, it needs to spayed or neutered, with all shots.

An indoor cat who is fixed, with all shots and possible flea treatment is indeed, a safe cat. Shots and fixing are a definite issue.

Not just keeping them inside.

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Saav
 

CatMom1994

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"Adopt a kitty and save nine lives" was very cute line before you replaced it with a thread link. I absollutely love the second line and hope you never delete it.

Believe me, I totally understand there are cats who can't be kept inside every minute. The book will offer solutions to tricky problems that require letting a cat go in the backyard. Its emphasis is on free-roaming cats who go outside only because their humans are not educated about it. If a cat just needs to go potty outside and come right back in, that's one thing. Someone shutting a cat out because of behavior problems or manageable allergies is another animal.
 

mechi2

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Here's another side to outdoor cats, they roam neighbours' property and turn their yard into a giant litter box, and they hunt birds. I do not understand people who get a cat and then just let them roam the street, that is not responsible pet ownership no matter what the excuse. Cats should be kept inside, for their own protection as well as for the consideration of others. By the way I don't know if this has been mentioned but in winter some cats crawl into the underside of cars, another danger for cats.
 

CatMom1994

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Your first statement reminds me of a legal case. One lady in Ohio got in trouble after a neighbor's kids found cat urine and poop in their sandbox. That is an easy way to spread toxoplasmosis, so I also will be writing about outdoor cats being a danger to humans.
 

Saav

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All my cats are inside. Don't start. And yes, there are outside cats and feral cats, find a solution to that issue. Many have indoor/outdoor cats and there are feral cats outside as well.

As I said, do your research. Call and speak to professionals and get on track with which you do not understand.

And be careful, you are not a professional here.

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Saav
 

CatMom1994

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I know you can't tame every feral cat. That is obvious. Butt here have been success stories about feral cats being tamed enough to live inside part time or all the time. Can Fancy published such a story about a cat who had been spayed, tipped, vaccinated, and returned, but is now an exclusively-indoor feline. I tihink many people would enjoy reading that kind of rescue story So while I agree it is impossible to keep all cats indoors 24/7, I want to make it clear that cats don't have to.live outside forever just because they were ferals. If a cat must live outside forever, it is an untrainable feral. So I will ask Alley Cat Allies how to help people discern the difference between those feral cat categories.
 

mechi2

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There's an easy solution to outside cats, make it against the law. In most places, at least in North America, dogs aren't allowed to roam freely, there's no reason why it shouldn't apply to pet cats as well.
 

CatMom1994

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Mechi, there is nothing easy about trying to make it illegal. My contribtutions toward the cause obviosuly begin with writing a booik with hte hope many readers will understand how important keeping their own cats iindoors 24/7 is. That is all I want to concentrate on now because until it is finished, Congress will not care, and neither will the state sentators and representatives in Tallahassee.
 

Saav

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While I do agree keeping cats indoors, there are some who just wander in their own backyards, and those who are on a safe street come around for a buffet here and there, and go home.

While I understand your ideas, using others' ideas, others' writings, and others' recommendations is all and well, remember to ask their recommendations, their ideas, their writings and always ask permissions.

Please make your own website/book away from here. I never posted my stuff about my book 1) without my copyright and 2}without complete legal rights to it.

Please rethink this. Also, when you misspell "contribtutions" and "hte" and "obviosuy" and "iindoors" ... while I understand misspellings, this seems to me you need to understand the basics of English and review grammar, spelling, and also understand the wherewithal that also constitutes a proper copyright for any book.

Also, there is no such thing as state sentators.

If you read my book, which has been published and sold with the proper copyright, you will see there are no misspellings, no grammar issues, no nothing.

I do wish you luck with this, but I'd say I'd bet a million to one 1) you will not finish it and 2) no one will give you a Library of Congress ISBN.

Remember, a book needs all original material. Good luck.

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Saav
 

CatMom1994

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Saav, 100% of the missepllings are typos I failed to correct. I do know how to spell all of those words. Previously I set Firefox to show a red line for misseplled words and typos, but it appears even when I spell a word correctly. Litterbox was one of them. So I turned it off because there is no way to fix those red line errors. Obivously on Apache Open Office and Microsoft Word, I can edit the dictionary to prevent this from happening.
 

Saav

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Missepllings and misseplled are spelled properly in order, misspellings and misspelled.

You are welcome to find any misspellings or grammatical errors outside of the dialogue in my book. The dialogue in it does use colloquialisms such as "y'all," "ain't," and other terms.

Please make sure all your words are spelled correctly.

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Saav
 

mechi2

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Hey Saav, you saying you never made a typo? Give her a break. Catmom, I hope you don't feel discouraged, writing a book is a fantastic experience, whether or not it gets published, hope you keep plugging away at it.
 


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